Monday, October 26, 2009

Requiem For a Dream

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I'm still amazed that I've never watched this movie. I really feel like I need to be in the right mood to watch it and I'm never quite in that mood. Its got quite a cult following and it looks like the studios have been putting in some effort to release a clean blu-ray transfer. We'll compare three of them: The US BR, the French BR, and the Canadian BR.
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+/-US Blu-Ray (Released 9/8/2009)-Lionsgate
Total   Video                        
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Requiem for a Dream Director's Cut                              AVC     1:41:25 32,172,263,424  37,776,372,519  42.29   34.98   DTS-HD Master 7.1 4696Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     REQUIEM_FOR_A_DREAM
Disc Size:      37,776,372,519 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00004.MPLS
Size:                   32,172,263,424 bytes
Length:                 1:41:25 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          42.29 Mbps
Description:

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description
-----                   -------             -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34979 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description
-----                           --------        -------         -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4696 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 4696 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description
-----                           --------        -------         -----------
Presentation Graphics           English         28.954 kbps
Presentation Graphics           English         34.258 kbps
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         25.674 kbps

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------
00252.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:41:25.913     32,172,263,424  42,291

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------
1               0:00:00.000     0:05:32.206     26,552 kbps     44,096 kbps     00:01:12.739    37,428 kbps     00:05:26.200    36,894 kbps     00:03:27.624    138,410 bytes   516,702 bytes   00:01:13.448
2               0:05:32.206     0:03:36.216     36,364 kbps     40,160 kbps     00:07:58.269    37,076 kbps     00:08:26.881    36,955 kbps     00:08:21.959    189,584 bytes   369,445 bytes   00:07:58.978
3               0:09:08.422     0:04:54.252     36,531 kbps     38,302 kbps     00:13:15.628    37,077 kbps     00:13:54.375    36,964 kbps     00:13:49.411    190,453 bytes   467,410 bytes   00:14:02.007
4               0:14:02.675     0:05:00.174     36,193 kbps     39,119 kbps     00:17:46.648    37,098 kbps     00:14:24.196    36,944 kbps     00:14:20.359    188,693 bytes   369,414 bytes   00:17:47.441
5               0:19:02.850     0:04:33.982     36,500 kbps     45,277 kbps     00:23:35.330    38,397 kbps     00:23:31.326    37,503 kbps     00:23:26.321    190,296 bytes   385,689 bytes   00:21:59.026
6               0:23:36.832     0:03:58.279     36,505 kbps     41,716 kbps     00:25:52.384    37,380 kbps     00:24:10.073    37,105 kbps     00:25:43.375    190,320 bytes   342,359 bytes   00:25:29.236
7               0:27:35.111     0:02:13.633     36,608 kbps     38,036 kbps     00:28:13.358    36,964 kbps     00:28:20.323    36,876 kbps     00:28:41.010    190,860 bytes   315,966 bytes   00:29:10.540
8               0:29:48.745     0:03:00.013     36,168 kbps     40,470 kbps     00:32:47.340    37,515 kbps     00:32:43.461    36,952 kbps     00:32:38.456    188,563 bytes   386,516 bytes   00:30:20.068
9               0:32:48.758     0:04:29.936     35,953 kbps     40,523 kbps     00:36:51.000    37,507 kbps     00:36:46.996    37,068 kbps     00:36:41.949    187,441 bytes   399,886 bytes   00:36:00.032
10              0:37:18.694     0:12:07.309     36,343 kbps     39,865 kbps     00:47:51.743    37,328 kbps     00:47:47.781    37,065 kbps     00:47:42.734    189,476 bytes   407,719 bytes   00:37:43.636
11              0:49:26.004     0:07:00.420     36,633 kbps     38,656 kbps     00:56:02.734    37,070 kbps     00:55:17.772    36,943 kbps     00:55:53.641    190,988 bytes   361,947 bytes   00:55:22.694
12              0:56:26.424     0:09:40.788     36,426 kbps     42,760 kbps     01:03:52.745    37,846 kbps     01:03:48.658    37,082 kbps     01:03:43.736    189,910 bytes   356,780 bytes   01:00:02.807
13              1:06:07.213     0:07:18.771     36,204 kbps     41,780 kbps     01:13:09.635    37,281 kbps     01:13:19.353    37,036 kbps     01:13:14.390    188,750 bytes   442,620 bytes   01:13:10.636
14              1:13:25.984     0:07:37.039     36,516 kbps     38,938 kbps     01:15:02.164    37,235 kbps     01:14:58.243    36,970 kbps     01:13:28.362    190,378 bytes   359,626 bytes   01:15:03.040
15              1:21:03.024     0:08:16.329     36,632 kbps     40,672 kbps     01:26:10.165    37,253 kbps     01:26:49.746    36,968 kbps     01:26:44.699    190,984 bytes   313,551 bytes   01:25:41.136
16              1:29:19.354     0:12:06.559     28,946 kbps     46,593 kbps     01:33:00.575    38,220 kbps     01:32:56.571    37,453 kbps     01:32:51.566    150,919 bytes   407,517 bytes   01:38:37.995

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----
00252.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6085.746                34,980                  26,609,990,356  144,704,410
00252.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6085.746                4,696                   3,572,214,844   20,362,337
00252.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6085.746                224                     170,405,760     950,925
00252.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6085.746                224                     170,405,760     950,925
00252.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6085.746                29                      22,026,774      127,102
00252.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6085.746                34                      26,061,754      150,508
00252.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6085.746                26                      19,531,137      113,740
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+/-FR Blu-Ray (Released 11/18/2008)-Aventi
Total   Video                         
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
Requiem for a Dream (France)                                    AVC     1:41:33 20,443,674,624  24,599,062,976  26.84   19.00   DTS-HD Hi-Res 5.1 3018Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     REQUIEM_FOR_A_DREAM
Disc Size:      24,599,062,976 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Size:                   20,443,674,624 bytes
Length:                 1:41:33 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          26.84 Mbps
Description:

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description
-----                   -------             -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video        18998 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description
-----                           --------        -------         -----------
DTS-HD Audio                    English         3018 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3018 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Audio                    French          3018 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3018 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description
-----                           --------        -------         -----------
Presentation Graphics           French          27.256 kbps 

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:41:33.754     20,443,674,624  26,839

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------
1               0:00:00.000     0:10:24.040     18,353 kbps     33,951 kbps     00:01:08.109    32,016 kbps     00:01:44.020    30,715 kbps     00:01:42.352    95,677 bytes    606,360 bytes   00:01:08.943
2               0:10:24.040     0:14:36.792     19,282 kbps     27,930 kbps     00:18:26.271    27,102 kbps     00:19:53.567    26,900 kbps     00:19:53.650    100,530 bytes   404,176 bytes   00:13:56.418
3               0:25:00.832     0:08:42.605     19,144 kbps     32,767 kbps     00:31:15.081    29,458 kbps     00:31:11.077    27,770 kbps     00:31:06.072    99,808 bytes    335,275 bytes   00:27:38.114
4               0:33:43.438     0:12:24.952     18,837 kbps     33,858 kbps     00:38:02.154    29,370 kbps     00:35:59.323    28,108 kbps     00:36:01.200    98,206 bytes    315,775 bytes   00:41:49.715
5               0:46:08.390     0:10:13.487     16,794 kbps     32,732 kbps     00:51:27.292    30,060 kbps     00:51:23.413    29,413 kbps     00:51:19.451    87,554 bytes    304,175 bytes   00:48:30.991
6               0:56:21.878     0:08:34.013     20,652 kbps     40,036 kbps     01:04:33.619    34,304 kbps     01:04:30.366    31,512 kbps     01:04:25.361    107,672 bytes   309,219 bytes   01:04:30.408
7               1:04:55.892     0:09:45.668     20,070 kbps     37,792 kbps     01:07:24.040    31,843 kbps     01:07:20.453    29,784 kbps     01:12:14.371    104,633 bytes   352,087 bytes   01:09:07.476
8               1:14:41.560     0:07:49.802     18,983 kbps     32,854 kbps     01:15:30.108    26,510 kbps     01:16:38.427    26,015 kbps     01:16:38.051    98,968 bytes    290,831 bytes   01:16:35.132
9               1:22:31.363     0:05:26.075     20,372 kbps     30,382 kbps     01:26:58.296    27,194 kbps     01:26:36.733    26,301 kbps     01:27:47.428    106,209 bytes   315,478 bytes   01:26:58.671
10              1:27:57.438     0:04:18.174     24,334 kbps     47,253 kbps     01:30:13.324    35,460 kbps     01:30:11.948    32,592 kbps     01:30:11.614    126,864 bytes   356,815 bytes   01:30:00.728
11              1:32:15.613     0:03:07.562     20,570 kbps     34,711 kbps     01:32:33.923    27,540 kbps     01:35:17.795    26,883 kbps     01:35:13.165    107,245 bytes   335,945 bytes   01:35:21.507
12              1:35:23.175     0:06:10.578     13,484 kbps     28,648 kbps     01:35:27.930    27,584 kbps     01:35:23.926    25,366 kbps     01:35:23.175    70,310 bytes    343,439 bytes   01:35:26.512

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----
00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6093.588                18,998                  14,470,966,413  78,732,298
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x85            DTS-HD HR       fra (French)            6093.588                3,018                   2,298,870,960   13,710,960
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x85            DTS-HD HR       eng (English)           6093.588                3,018                   2,298,870,960   13,710,960
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6093.588                27                      20,761,657      119,094
Review:
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+/-CA Blu-Ray (Released 3/3/2009)-Alliance (Universal)
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     
Disc Size:      15,994,784,719 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 1:41:34 (h:m:s)
Size:                   15,925,155,840 bytes
Total Bitrate:          20.91 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        15000 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3815 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3815 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             French          448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.023 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:41:34.088     15,925,155,840  20,906          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:03:00.597     14,591 kbps     23,951 kbps     00:01:08.443    21,302 kbps     00:01:44.771    20,633 kbps     00:02:02.455    76,056 bytes    461,989 bytes   00:01:09.319    
2               0:03:00.597     0:02:28.898     8,848 kbps      18,749 kbps     00:05:22.739    16,275 kbps     00:05:21.988    14,698 kbps     00:03:30.335    46,127 bytes    389,112 bytes   00:05:26.701    
3               0:05:29.495     0:02:22.600     14,436 kbps     19,637 kbps     00:05:31.247    17,673 kbps     00:05:30.121    15,406 kbps     00:05:31.247    75,265 bytes    306,236 bytes   00:07:51.721    
4               0:07:52.096     0:01:12.447     12,687 kbps     20,237 kbps     00:07:52.221    15,106 kbps     00:08:36.265    14,314 kbps     00:08:32.595    66,147 bytes    298,306 bytes   00:07:52.472    
5               0:09:04.544     0:03:02.515     12,491 kbps     23,000 kbps     00:09:34.740    20,425 kbps     00:09:33.823    17,210 kbps     00:09:29.068    65,120 bytes    347,237 bytes   00:11:37.238    
6               0:12:07.059     0:01:51.611     13,753 kbps     20,152 kbps     00:13:54.166    18,512 kbps     00:13:50.120    17,900 kbps     00:13:46.367    71,702 bytes    316,734 bytes   00:13:58.128    
7               0:13:58.671     0:02:36.531     12,833 kbps     20,506 kbps     00:16:11.387    18,844 kbps     00:16:07.383    16,964 kbps     00:16:05.381    66,907 bytes    270,968 bytes   00:16:11.512    
8               0:16:35.202     0:02:23.518     14,194 kbps     19,359 kbps     00:18:42.996    16,949 kbps     00:18:24.478    16,291 kbps     00:18:20.891    74,001 bytes    242,808 bytes   00:18:15.385    
9               0:18:58.720     0:04:33.982     14,661 kbps     21,116 kbps     00:22:18.211    18,358 kbps     00:19:54.026    18,212 kbps     00:19:54.026    76,437 bytes    302,603 bytes   00:21:55.063    
10              0:23:32.702     0:02:16.845     13,525 kbps     22,076 kbps     00:25:24.481    17,176 kbps     00:25:23.230    15,823 kbps     00:25:18.225    70,514 bytes    256,133 bytes   00:25:24.940    
11              0:25:49.547     0:01:41.518     14,161 kbps     18,582 kbps     00:26:11.236    16,844 kbps     00:26:01.935    16,204 kbps     00:26:02.227    73,829 bytes    279,206 bytes   00:26:49.357    
12              0:27:31.066     0:02:13.716     15,492 kbps     21,341 kbps     00:28:02.389    19,527 kbps     00:28:00.887    19,378 kbps     00:27:54.923    80,769 bytes    284,255 bytes   00:27:36.780    
13              0:29:44.783     0:01:42.936     14,955 kbps     24,808 kbps     00:31:15.582    21,748 kbps     00:31:11.411    20,150 kbps     00:31:06.614    77,966 bytes    261,526 bytes   00:30:16.523    
14              0:31:27.719     0:01:16.868     13,404 kbps     19,459 kbps     00:31:40.064    16,797 kbps     00:31:40.023    15,455 kbps     00:31:35.018    69,880 bytes    269,403 bytes   00:31:43.401    
15              0:32:44.587     0:01:34.094     13,943 kbps     19,512 kbps     00:33:42.353    17,247 kbps     00:33:42.353    16,772 kbps     00:33:42.270    72,690 bytes    244,822 bytes   00:33:42.520    
16              0:34:18.681     0:02:55.967     14,807 kbps     25,849 kbps     00:36:03.202    22,545 kbps     00:35:59.198    21,489 kbps     00:35:54.193    77,199 bytes    253,710 bytes   00:35:17.323    
17              0:37:14.649     0:09:48.170     13,826 kbps     20,791 kbps     00:37:59.568    17,946 kbps     00:43:57.343    17,723 kbps     00:45:18.257    72,085 bytes    288,108 bytes   00:37:38.172    
18              0:47:02.820     0:02:18.972     17,124 kbps     26,657 kbps     00:47:55.622    25,469 kbps     00:47:55.581    24,668 kbps     00:47:55.497    89,275 bytes    287,731 bytes   00:49:03.899    
19              0:49:21.792     0:02:10.713     16,966 kbps     28,888 kbps     00:51:10.650    26,529 kbps     00:50:50.589    25,431 kbps     00:50:45.542    88,452 bytes    252,130 bytes   00:49:23.210    
20              0:51:32.506     0:02:45.164     16,590 kbps     19,614 kbps     00:53:00.468    18,235 kbps     00:52:59.843    17,680 kbps     00:52:58.592    86,490 bytes    243,833 bytes   00:52:24.307    
21              0:54:17.671     0:02:04.707     17,522 kbps     23,723 kbps     00:54:53.081    20,289 kbps     00:55:28.575    19,681 kbps     00:54:44.114    91,350 bytes    250,767 bytes   00:55:18.857    
22              0:56:22.379     0:03:54.859     14,303 kbps     22,317 kbps     01:00:00.388    19,065 kbps     00:59:57.468    16,205 kbps     00:56:41.272    74,569 bytes    260,173 bytes   01:00:00.513    
23              1:00:17.238     0:02:21.724     16,337 kbps     24,443 kbps     01:01:18.841    21,263 kbps     01:01:18.132    20,327 kbps     01:01:13.169    85,174 bytes    284,491 bytes   01:02:38.588    
24              1:02:38.963     0:03:24.203     18,213 kbps     31,351 kbps     01:03:33.935    27,681 kbps     01:03:32.350    26,790 kbps     01:03:33.059    94,953 bytes    318,207 bytes   01:02:42.341    
25              1:06:03.167     0:07:03.840     16,986 kbps     35,246 kbps     01:06:09.882    31,731 kbps     01:06:05.711    29,828 kbps     01:06:03.876    88,557 bytes    301,563 bytes   01:06:06.837    
26              1:13:07.007     0:01:00.477     13,717 kbps     20,596 kbps     01:14:05.566    18,952 kbps     01:14:02.479    17,417 kbps     01:13:57.474    71,515 bytes    228,706 bytes   01:13:20.145    
27              1:14:07.484     0:02:27.939     17,859 kbps     24,209 kbps     01:14:54.239    22,801 kbps     01:14:48.108    22,705 kbps     01:14:48.734    93,107 bytes    279,130 bytes   01:14:58.744    
28              1:16:35.424     0:04:23.638     17,469 kbps     28,017 kbps     01:18:42.342    25,065 kbps     01:17:03.118    24,268 kbps     01:16:38.510    91,078 bytes    277,517 bytes   01:16:49.271    
29              1:20:59.062     0:04:39.070     17,527 kbps     25,387 kbps     01:21:29.426    23,209 kbps     01:21:29.301    21,788 kbps     01:21:28.758    91,376 bytes    267,035 bytes   01:23:15.949    
30              1:25:38.133     0:03:37.217     18,298 kbps     26,233 kbps     01:26:39.944    24,257 kbps     01:26:36.941    21,536 kbps     01:26:34.772    95,399 bytes    280,459 bytes   01:26:18.673    
31              1:29:15.350     0:04:31.688     16,976 kbps     31,110 kbps     01:30:13.741    24,134 kbps     01:30:12.031    23,635 kbps     01:30:11.989    88,504 bytes    286,786 bytes   01:31:08.588    
32              1:33:47.038     0:03:33.004     14,220 kbps     21,009 kbps     01:35:21.715    19,667 kbps     01:35:19.380    19,421 kbps     01:35:17.211    74,134 bytes    252,654 bytes   01:35:25.511    
33              1:37:20.042     0:04:14.045     7,573 kbps      14,443 kbps     01:38:33.324    12,747 kbps     01:38:30.946    11,369 kbps     01:40:32.026    39,488 bytes    260,595 bytes   01:38:33.449    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
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00003.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6094.005                15,000                  11,426,357,393  62,185,459      
00003.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6094.005                3,815                   2,905,928,444   16,744,926      
00003.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6094.005                448                     341,272,064     1,904,420       
00003.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            6094.005                448                     341,272,064     1,904,420       
00003.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6094.005                0                       17,502          102
Review: DVDBeaver Suite101.com
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The US transfer looks much cleaner than the other two keeping much more grain and detail than any of the other transfers. It also has a different tint to it which I personally like better. The colors seem much richer as well.
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